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Demo trades Vs Live trades

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Sep 06, 2011 01:29 pm
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leebut User

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Last week I was running tests on trading triangles with relative success. Why does it seem that when testing a strategy on a demo account the overall result is good, yet transfer the same strategy to the live account all goes wrong? Is it really that way, or does it only seem like it is?

 

Also the number of times I've been stopped out by less than 10 PIPs is unbelieveable. Recently the majority of my trades have been the reversal point of market flow and the stop was the other reversal point. Today, stopped out on EUR/USD by 2.6 PIPS before the market reversed, retraced my 77-PIP loss and then another 100+. Crazy!

Sep 06, 2011 01:35 pm
leebut User

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Update on EUR/USD. New entry on H1 break of support. My entry has become new support/reversal point.

Sep 06, 2011 08:53 pm

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today what happend to eurusd after chf news it droped 250 pips and other chf pairs more than 700 to 800 pips

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Sep 06, 2011 10:09 pm
leebut User

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Originally posted by sadscorpion

today what happend to eurusd after chf news it droped 250 pips and other chf pairs more than 700 to 800 pips

 



Yes, I know. It doesn't aswer why demo trades go well and live ones don't. Are there 'stop bots' That trawl the clients' stops and aggregate them to find a level at which to stop them all out at the same time? Maybe they sniff out old support and resistance levels and see how many stops are there and then, wham! Take them out!

Jan 03, 2012 12:52 pm
cees User

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i certainly go with live trade there in nothing like having your money invested

Jan 04, 2012 04:48 pm
ironical User

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Originally posted by leebut

Last week I was running tests on trading triangles with relative success. Why does it seem that when testing a strategy on a demo account the overall result is good, yet transfer the same strategy to the live account all goes wrong? Is it really that way, or does it only seem like it is?

 

Also the number of times I've been stopped out by less than 10 PIPs is unbelieveable. Recently the majority of my trades have been the reversal point of market flow and the stop was the other reversal point. Today, stopped out on EUR/USD by 2.6 PIPS before the market reversed, retraced my 77-PIP loss and then another 100+. Crazy!



That is why live trading conditions are said to be more strict than demo trading. I dont know the exact reason of why all this happens. But ur Stop bot idea is good[aww]

The good or ill of a man lies within his own will. – Epictetus

Jan 05, 2012 02:11 pm
Sasha User

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In ur case, it can be a bad luck. It has been reported by many many traders. Actually what u r thinking while trading is a common thought. Pro traders think above it. That is why they make less losses.

Jan 05, 2012 02:55 pm
leebut User

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Hmm, I believe that market conditions are the same on demo and live accounts. You don't see a fantasy price feed on a demo account. Price action is the same as that shown on a live account.

I don't see how using the same strategy on a demo account can be different on a live account. The same trigger is used on both. The only difference is emotions, which start after the trade is placed, not before.

As for the stop bots, someone or something knows where stops are. How do they get triggered if they don't? A platform is only a display of the data that's on your broker's or bank's servers. Your stops and limits aren't on your computer at all. It's all fed from them.

Feb 13, 2012 03:20 pm
widhie75 User

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Originally posted by leebut

Last week I was running tests on trading triangles with relative success. Why does it seem that when testing a strategy on a demo account the overall result is good, yet transfer the same strategy to the live account all goes wrong? Is it really that way, or does it only seem like it is?

Also the number of times I've been stopped out by less than 10 PIPs is unbelieveable. Recently the majority of my trades have been the reversal point of market flow and the stop was the other reversal point. Today, stopped out on EUR/USD by 2.6 PIPS before the market reversed, retraced my 77-PIP loss and then another 100+. Crazy!



 

Yup, thats the way market goes, no need to wonder.......... sometime it can reach R/S in same day,,,,sometime it just turn back before hit anything.

Lucky for us, Metatrader and all platform provide "Stop Loss" feature.

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Feb 28, 2012 05:03 pm
babasstar User

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Demo trades are good for begineres,to get ot know whit forex test new strategies,but it's not the same like real money trading,and ofcourse benefit from real money trading is pfcourse money it self :)))

Mar 01, 2012 04:56 pm
scorpian8 User

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It is ironically different .emotions are inveolved while in demo there are no emotions but you execute cold bloodedly

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